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โธ 1mo ago
What interfaces or connections ensure that the location can't be traced back besides i2p?
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โธ 1mo ago
You can use Reticulum over Tor.
Interloper has/had a RNS over TOR server and I asked him a while ago how he did it and
the setup was rather simple.
For the Server side:
โข Install Tor
โข Set the hidden service in the torrc file tosomething like
HiddenServiceDir /var/lib/tor/hidden_service/
HiddenServicePort 4245 127.0.0.1:4245
โข In the RNS config you can use the TCP Server Interface or the Backbone Interface, for
example:
[[Tor Backbone]]
type = BackboneInterface
interface_enabled = true
listen_port = 4245
listen_ip = 127.0.0.1
โข Start Tor and get you host address from the hidden_service folder you defined in step
2.
โข You are done.
For the client side:
โข Install Tor or just run the Tor-Browser or install Orbot
โข Since the reference implementation of RNS doesn't come with a Socks-Interface, you
have to download one from here: https://codeberg.org/SkyGuy/reti_socks_client
โข Put it into the .reticulum/interfaces folder or in
/data/data/io.unsigned.sideband/files/app_storage/reticulum/interfaces if you are using
sideband
โข In the rns config add something like:
[[Tor Client]]
type = SOCKSClientInterface
enabled = true
target_host = YourOnionAdressp9ae8asdsdzheap9fa7fha9if.onion
target_port = 5959
proxy_host = 127.0.0.1
proxy_port = 9150
โข Note that the Socks port of Tor might be different for Orbot (I think 9050?)
โข You are done.
The only Server I know of is the one from Interloper and should be reachable on
intrcxv4fa72e5ovler5dpfwsiyuo34tkcwfy5snzstxkhec75okowqd.onion. But I didn't test if it
is still online.
Columba has a Socks-Interface but I think it's broken at the moment. If you really want
to use Columba instead of Sideband you could start your rns instance with sideband and
share it with Columba I guess.
Disclamer: while the setup works, I'm far from qualified to give advice about security. I
also didn't check the SkyGuy interface if it is secure. So use at your own risk.
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โธ 1mo ago
CarL_PetErson: thought about that too, but I think tor is less secure/anonymous than i2p
and i2pd does provide a stable and fast connection, once node's are already discoverd.
I guess what I am asking is kind of an imossibility or would not really be discuessed on
this board.
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โธ 1mo ago
I mean even just using a normal backbone connection is already be pretty anonymous
because either the backbone you are connecting to has to be compromised or someone has to
follow the chain of connections manually which is possible but difficult.
Add in a tor connection and I think you are in the clear. I'd be way more worried about
other opsec mistakes rather than tor deanonymizing you, and if the off chance it did (if
all the relays are in germany or something and traffic analyis becomes possible), they'd
still have go through reticulum to figure you out exactly what you are doing. Unless
every single government agency is after you, you'll be fine.
If you don't want to use tor you might be able to add some more plausible deniability by
spoofing the hops count so your destination to everyone else seems further away
topologically and then making yourself a transport node so that your traffic blends in
with everything else. Though I wouldn't call that a perfect solution and spoofing the hop
count isn't built into reticulum (yet).
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โธ 1mo ago
My question is why not i2p? Unless you are just looking for some redundancy in case i2p
goes down/tunnels fail.
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โธ 1mo ago
Cudanet:
well for one I'd like to move past TCP/IP.
1. You need a ISP, that's not very independent/resilient.
2. I think it's all bloated. I2p is quite resource intensive and crashes quite often. so
yeah kind of agree, but Tor is similar to that.
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โธ 1mo ago
Doesn't tor just use tcp/ip and where does a ISP come into this?
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โธ 1mo ago
welo: your suggestions sound interesting.
just to quote the official manual:
> TCP connections reveal the IP address of both your instance and the server to anyone
who can inspect the connection. Someone could use this information to determine your
location or identity. Adversaries inspecting your packets may be able to record packet
metadata like time of transmission and packet size.
For me it was unclear if this means any node that connects to the node is traceable for
any connected node.
Often when using TCP I'm only in a 2-hop connection I think that's quite traceable.
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โธ 1mo ago
welo wrote:
> Doesn't tor just use tcp/ip and where does a ISP come into this?
Yep that's why I'm not a big fan of tor either.
how do you connect to tor (I need an ISP no?)?
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โธ 1mo ago
anon wrote:
> welo wrote:
> > Doesn't tor just use tcp/ip and where does a ISP come into this?
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> Yep that's why I'm not a big fan of tor either.
> how do you connect to tor (I need an ISP no?)?
Yea everything you do through the internet goes your isp, and that's the case of normal
connection, tor connections and i2p connections too. You cannot hide that you are
uploading or downloading data from your ISP, you can only hide exactly what you are
downloading or uploading and from who and tor and i2p do those thing pretty well which
then forward it to the rest of the reticulum network.
Only real exception would be sending reticulum packets as lora or radio but those are
very localised with usually ranges less than 15km at best and it's pretty trivial to
locate the guy blasting 5 wats of electromagnetic radiation out some homemade antenna
anon wrote:
> For me it was unclear if this means any node that connects to the node is traceable for
any connected node.
Only the transport node you connect to knows your ip address and which destination you
are sending packets to though that information isn't sent in the reticulum packets
themselves. But yes if someone could correlate your reticulum destination with that tcp
connection either by compromising that server you are connecting to or traffic analysis,
they could eventually figure where/who you are.
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